Myth and Fact

Responding to Sutter's Attack on TheReligionofPeace.com (and me)

by Glen Reinsford

 

Jump to Update: 10/6/08

December, 2007

Hardly anyone knew who Jim Sutter was when he wrote a long "exposé" on Robert Spencer a few months ago and began launching attacks on anti-Jihad sites across the Internet.  For that reason, a lot of people took him far more seriously than they should have at the time, including myself.

In my case, I wrote a 20-page refutation of Sutter's smear against Spencer.  I probably read Sutter's piece more carefully than anyone had, and gradually became impressed with his shallowness.  (Anyone is free to torture themselves by reading his original article and my response, just to convince themselves that Sutter is not to be confused with an academic).

I also discovered that the man calling himself "Reverend" Jim Sutter is a complete fraud.  He has claimed to be a decorated Navy Seal, earning the Navy Cross and four Purple Hearts over a 26-year career.  He says that he earned three decorates, including a PhD in Psychology.  He has also laid claim to being a Catholic priest, a Baptist pastor, seminary graduate, and a licensed counselor,

All of these are completely false.  In fact, Jim Sutter is a nobody.  He dropped out of the Navy after only 7 months of peacetime training.  He never completed college, much less does he have the five graduate degrees that he claims.  His religious titles are bogus, and he is not a licensed counselor - although he has advertised for "patients" using false credentials and bilked one unfortunate couple out of $22,000.

Sutter is actually a troubled ex-felon who hasn't worked in 18 years.  He is supported by his wife and American taxpayers like me.  Along the way he has pretended to have various illnesses, including terminal cancer.  These are false claims that he has used fraudulently to manipulate others and keep from working.  The list of those he has sought to exploit include rape victims and the disabled, all taken in by his con game.  He has been convicted of at least two felonies by Federal courts. 

Although Sutter claims to run an "anti-hate" site, he has been caught promoting pedophilia, terrorism and slavery under Muslim aliases.  He has also made anti-Semitic slurs and e-mailed death threats against Muslims to web site operators.  See Phony Rev, the Con Artist Behind Hate Watch for more on Jim Sutter.

So, in other words, there is no reason to take this man seriously enough to spend anymore time writing another long response in defense of the object of his latest attack, even though it happens to be me.

Unlike Sutter, who has upwards of a dozen phony "profiles" in various Internet directories, I am a private person with no desire to promote myself.  I do not even put my name on my own website. 

Still, I wanted to at least set the record straight in a few areas, particularly since Sutter is alleging that I am someone I am not.  In Spencer's case, Sutter accused him of being the same person as one of his staffers, Hugh Fitzgerald.  In my case, I don't even know either of the two people that he is claiming me to be.

 

MYTH

Sutter alleges that I am a racist.

FACT

He provides absolutely no proof of this, nor even an indication of which races he is speaking.  I have never made statements alleging that any race is superior to another.  I am actually an anti-racialist, meaning that I believe it is an artificial classification that merits no recognition.

Sutter, himself, has a poor history of closet bigotry against Muslims and genuine racism against African-Americans, so he is simply using the word "racist" disingenuously for effect (regardless of whatever he is pretending it means).

The only link that Sutter offers to support this awful slur is to an article written by a disgruntled Muslim named Nadir Ahmed, who never actually uses the word "racist," but does call me a ‘Nazi’ because I would not debate him.  The article is two years old.  In the time since, I invited Nadir to debate me and he backed down after initially agreeing to it (I do not know why Nadir insists on leaving the old article up).

[UPDATE: Nadir has taken down his post after hearing that it was misused by Sutter.  He apparently did NOT intend for the word, Nazi, to be interpreted in the way that Sutter is trying to exploit.]

 

MYTH 

Sutter claims, based on his "ability" to hack e-mail servers, that either I am married to a "Parker Shannon" or that I am that person based on the fact that he received e-mail from someone with that name and that there is a “Shannon Parker” in the Atlanta phone book.

FACT 

I do not know her (or him), nor do I know anyone else using either of these names.  It's interesting how Sutter claims to have such impressive journalistic and computer skills while, at the same time, trying to convince the government that he is unable to do productive work.  For a man whose only job is to pretend that he can't do anything, he is certainly doing a poor job of it.

 

MYTH 

Sutter claims that I am really "Shaunnan (Sean) Drake."  He then launches into a description of Mr. Drake’s hobbies (including Dungeons and Dragons) and his alleged child support woes.

FACT 

I do not know anyone with the last name of Drake.  I have never played Dungeons and Dragons.  I have no child support obligations and no children from prior relationships.  Neither can I find any verification of Sutter's claim that a prominent family named Drake lived in the small, Eskimo village where I grew up.  I don't know where the Phony Rev is getting this.

 

MYTH  

Sutter claims that I am a hypocrite for accepting donations after refusing to take them for four years.

FACT  

This is a particularly inappropriate accusation for Sutter to make, given that he has served time in prison for multiple felony convictions that involved cheating people out of money at the same time that he claimed to be a "Christian minister."

My site's change in donation policy in late 2005 is noted elsewhere and has to do with the increasing amount of time that I found myself devoting to the site (which led me to make a career sacrifice) and the desire of others to contribute.  Other than an occasional “thank-you” note, I do not follow-up with donors for future contributions and make very little effort to raise funding for the site's operations.

 

MYTH  

Sutter claims that I am dependent on donations and have told him that I am on the verge of bankruptcy.

FACT 

I have never had any conversations about my finances with Jim Sutter, written or otherwise.  (For the record, I have absolutely no debt and have never been charged interest by any credit card company in my entire life). 

Neither have I made any claims about my occupation or job skills to this man.  He knows nothing about me.

Sutter himself is quite comfortable living off of other people's money, be it that of his wife or of ordinary taxpayers.  This is one reason why he is so unhappy with himself and his limited options in the final years of his wasted life.  He has only himself to blame for his misery.  I took a different path.

 

MYTH  

Sutter has invented an entire tale around two domain registration records, and claims that I used to work for a company that lost its government contracts in 2002 because I was running a “racist” website on one of their servers.

FACT   

The two companies that Sutter mentions, GoDaddy and CI2.com are both ISPs, which means they provide Internet services (such as IP addresses, protocol access, e-mail storage, and domain registrations) to clients, including the one for which I used to work.  I have never been fired by GoDaddy.com, CI2.com, nor the company for which I was actually employed at that time. 

I cannot find any mention on the Web of any company in the United States that has lost government contracts over a racist website.  Neither have I ever had anything to do with a racist website or a company that had any such problem.  Sutter provides no evidence for any of his claims.  The only link that he offers is to a general AboutUs.org page that does not make mention of any of of this.

 

MYTH  

Sutter claims that my site, TROP, lumps all Muslims together as terrorists and makes no distinction between them.

FACT 

We have said exactly the opposite in so many places that even Sutter can’t help but quote us. 

Case in point (Sutter quoting from my site):

“CAIR may be the epitome of selfish indifference towards those outside one's own race or religion, but that doesn't mean that your Muslim neighbor or co-worker shares their narcissism... so please don't be an ass. The Muslims that you know in your private life mean you no harm and deserve no abuse from you, verbal or otherwise.

Islam is interpreted in different ways and followed to different degrees. No Muslim should be harassed or harmed anywhere in the world because of his or her religion. Every Muslim should be treated as an individual and judged only by his or her own words and deeds”.

This has always been our policy.  We also expound on the subject of stereotyping Muslims here, here, here and in many other places on TheReligionofPeace.com.  We criticize the elements of Islam with which we disagree (such as the inferior status of women) and the effect that it has on those who believe.  Whatever sophistry Sutter employs to pursue a personal grudge will not change this truth.

 

MYTH 

Sutter claims that the list of attacks on TROP includes any act of violence committed by a Muslim for any reason.

FACT 

This is absolutely untrue.  We do not record an incident unless it can be reasonably inferred that religion played a role in the violence.  We do not include deranged mosque shootings in Yemen, for example, political shootings in Pakistan (such as the recent political killings), clan violence, or acts of terror by either the Balochistan Liberation Army or the PKK in Turkey.

From a list of over 10,000 items, Sutter provides only four examples of what he says are attacks that shouldn’t be there.  In fact, he does no other research into these beyond merely looking at my description.  Each of the four attacks that he cites was committed by Kashmiri militants, who are supported by Pakistan and have charters that specify Islamic goals.  They are therefore Muslim terror attacks.

 

MYTH  

Sutter claims that the National Counter-Terrorism Center refutes my claim that Muslims commit the majority of deadly religious terror attacks.

FACT 

Sutter apparently overlooks the word ‘deadly.’  I do not count an attack unless it results in loss of life.  If one uses the NCTC’s advanced search page to compare terror attacks with at least one death committed by the world’s major religions, they will find that NCTC records 2,379 deadly attacks by members of Islamic extremist groups and only 68 committed by all other religions combined.

Even this last figure is deceptive because 63 of the 68 attacks are by the Lord’s Resistance Army, which is not a Christian organization.  The leader of the group is Joseph Kony, a Ugandan madman who invented his own religion by borrowing ritual elements from both the Bible and the Qur’an.  Kony also claims to be Jesus himself, which means that he is no more a Christian than would be a "Muslim" who declared himself the prophet Muhammad.

This actually leaves five deadly attacks by all other religions, compared to the 2,379 by Muslim organizations, meaning that Muslims are responsible for 99.8% of the violence that NCTC puts into this category.  Draw your own conclusions as to whether or not there is something different about Islam.

 

MYTH 

Sutter also says that the NCTC refutes the TROP claim that all 10,000 attacks on our list are motivated by religion, since the center ascribes the majority of the attacks in their own database to other factors.

FACT 

In the first place, NCTC is reluctant to classify attacks by individuals as terror attacks unless they are determined to belong to an official terrorist organization.  Secondly, NCTC will usually disregard religion as a primary motive if there are other possibilities to choose from (they only classify each under a single category).

Here are three examples in which NCTC and TROP may have reached different conclusions as to primary motive:

An Iranian woman is planted in the ground and pelted with stones because she was accused of adultery.  NCTC might consider this to be a judicial matter.  TROP looks at it from the perspective of the victim, who is wrongfully and violently put to death by those who think they are following Allah's will with regard to a law laid down explicitly by Muhammad.

A group of Sunni radicals shoot a dozen Iraqi policemen to death in cold blood while shouting, “Allah Akbar!”  NCTC might consider this a political statement.  TROP relies on the audio.

Three Christian employees of a Bible publisher are kidnapped by Muslim extremists, tortured for three hours and then brutally slain.  NCTC notes that they were members of an ultra-Nationalist group and calls it a "nationalist" attack.  TROP notes that Turkey is already a nation, and that Turkish Christians (the victims) are targeted there because they are not Muslim.  In this case, the killers, members of the Nurcu Muslim sect, said they intended to "protect Islam from lies."

We do not claim that Islam is the only motive for each attack on our list, but we have taken pains to explain how the terrorists themselves appeal to it as their justification

We have nothing but respect for NCTC, but they have their process and we have ours. 

Each of our attacks is available for review, complete with date, location and description.  We have always been open to considering objections to any specific entry on our list.  We have made any corrections that have been proven necessary.

 

MYTH

Sutter claims that TROP's list of attacks is “top-heavy with US combat deaths.”

FACT 

Since Sutter provides no examples, and he apparently has a very poor grasp of what “combat” actually means.  The only attacks on US troops that we have recorded are those in which a soldier might have been attacked while standing guard, eating mess, or traveling on a non-military mission, such as providing medical care to Iraqis.  Though recording a handful of these attacks early on, there are not very many on the list, certainly well under one tenth of 1%.

Is less than one tenth of 1% really "top-heavy?"  It's difficult to tell because Sutter doesn't provide any actual numbers.  This is because he didn't do any actual research.  All we know for sure is that the man who masquerades as a decorated military veteran thinks it is wrong to include American victims of Islamic terror on our list if they happen to be in uniform at the time.

Despite the fact that every single one of our items is available in a tabular format that can be easily loaded into a database for analysis (see my own IBC article for an example), Sutter was too lazy to do even this.  He is a charlatan, not a journalist.

 

MYTH 

Sutter claims that TROP site traffic has dropped by 8% in the last three months and that this is proof of readers "realizing that TROP is a hate site."

FACT

The drop in traffic can be traced directly to Sutter himself.  Last August he contacted me and threatened to have my site blocked by the Web's largest censorware providers, such as SonicWall and Secure Computing if I didn't adopt his political and theological positions.  He also campaigned against other anti-Jihad sites.

I declined to yield to his bullying, and he made good on his word by writing letters to these companies using aliases.  It surprised me that they listened to him, but I still feel that I made the right choice by not letting him intimidate me.

Sutter is free to brag about his own negative impact on my work, but he shouldn’t try to delude others into believing that he represents anyone other than himself.

[UPDATE: According to Alexa, the company that Sutter uses as a reference, his own blog traffic has dropped 87%.  This coincides with his having been exposed as a fraud on Phony Rev.]

 

MYTH 

Sutter claims that my book, Age of Tolerance, “shows" my "racism.”

FACT

Despite the fact that it only cost $8.95, Sutter never bothered to read my book, which is a good thing, since it should make it that much harder for anyone to mistake him for a serious journalist. 

There is probably legitimate criticism to be made against the book (which is a first effort on my part), but racism is clearly not one of them.  For Sutter to so casually use the most horrible of slurs in such groundless fashion speaks poorly of his character.

In fact, the book is plainly anti-racialist, which is impossible for anyone who has read it to have missed.  If I remember correctly, the four most positive characters in the story are from four different races (and three religions, including Islam).  In keeping with my personal beliefs, one of the more prominent themes is the absurdity of categorizing people by race (as this excerpt from the book makes obvious).

 

UPDATE 10/6/08

The main point that PhonyRev.com has tried to get across about the bogus "Reverend" Sutter is that he disingenuously abuses the very serious issues of hate and racism as a platform for attacking his personal enemies with over-the-top lies on his "Chasing Evil" blog.  In other words, he is an insincere, petty man who is not worth taking seriously.

Sutter could not possibly have provided better proof of this than he when he decided to put together an October 2nd, 2008 blog posting titled, "Update on Glen Reinsford."  He writes:

"Reinsford is an indicted co-conspirator of Jeanette Runyon, on charges of conspiracy, forgery, cyberstalking, money laundering, wire fraud, theft of a social security number, and using interstate communications to make personal threats."

At the same time that he is claiming to be privy to so many of these serious federal charges, Sutter is also making it known that he is not even sure that Glen Reinsford is my real name, and offers up the same lame speculation that I am actually "Sean Drake." 

Obviously the feds do not indict people without naming them, so even Sutter's two groupies should be able to see through this weak fiction, particularly given that he is also claiming to be "scheduled to testify" as a witness for the prosecution!

This is what Sutter does, of course.  He invents horrible lies about other people, and then pushes them under the guise of legitimacy, thus demeaning serious social issues merely for the purpose of personal gain.  He feels that he is free to libel others because he has no assets to his name.  At 53, his bank account is as worthless as his character.

In this case, Sutter is not being terribly bright.  His tactics are so crude, in fact, that they are downright clownish.  (For the record, I am obviously not under any sort of indictment or investigation.  I have no criminal history at all, in fact.  My only "brush with the law" was an incident in college in which I paid a $20 fine for fishing without a license). 

The bumbling Sutter also alleges:

"Neo-Nazi Glen Reinsford, who used to run the horrifically anti-Islamic site of www.cairbaby.com, had his site taken down, as his hosting company has restrictions against racism."

The use of the word "Nazi" is a desperate tactic that Sutter commonly employs against many other undeserving persons as well.  In my case, it is stunningly inappropriate because I have a family member who personally suffered at the hands of true Nazis in a concentration camp during the war.  (Ironically, one of Sutter's own "editors" is a brazen, gun-toting anti-Semite with a very interesting German lineage). 

Far from being a racist website, CAIRBaby.com openly championed the cause of African villagers against racial genocide and took CAIR to task for its refusal to do the same.  As editor, I also spoke out against the exploitation of American civil rights icon Rosa Parks.  These may been the reasons that Sutter himself kept trying to have the site taken down, given his very real history of aggression toward people of color.

As far as I know, there were no other complaints lodged against CAIR Baby, even by CAIR itself.  I gradually disassembled the site after determining that it wasn't an effective use of my time.  The articles and points made on CAIRBaby have been incorporated into TheReligionofPeace.com, which is hosted by the same vendor.

One does not cure damaged credibility with new lies.  In Sutter's case, his reputation is so hopelessly unsalvageable that he seems to have given up altogether.  The latest tantrum happened as a result of the impact that the Phony Rev site is having on his social life there in Cleveland, even though it was entirely his choice to have it go on-line in the first place.  (Guess he wanted the attention).

If Sutter has changed his mind about Phony Rev, then he has merely to ask that it be taken down (and promise to behave himself).  To my knowledge, nothing contained there is untrue and Sutter has always had an open invitation to have anything challenged and removed.  So far, his only real protest has been over critical details of his Navy record, which is why instructions have been posted here for anyone to easily test the credibility of PhonyRev.com against "Reverend Jim's" wild tales of combat medals and Jack Bauer-like fantasies.

But there is a reason why Sutter is the spectacular failure that he is, and after a lifetime of extremely poor decisions, which have left him bankrupt, obese and powerless, it is extremely unlikely that the Internet's biggest laughing stock will start doing the right thing anytime soon - even if it is in his best interest.

 

See Phony Rev, the Con Artist Behind Hate Watch for more about "Reverend" Jim Sutter.